- The Mental Fitness Podcast
- Episode 4
The Mental Fitness Podcast•Episode 4•50 min
Sleep, Mental Fitness, and Everyday Resilience with Dr. Jade Wu
September 16, 2025
Guest: Dr. Jade Wu Hosts Dave and Luke welcome Dr. Jade Wu, an internationally recognized behavioral sleep medicine specialist and author of Hello Sleep.
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Guest: Dr. Jade Wu. Hosts Dave and Luke welcome Dr. Jade Wu, an internationally recognized behavioral sleep medicine specialist and author of Hello Sleep. Together, they explore why sleep is a foundation for mood, focus, creativity, and resilience. Dr. Wu explains how our relationship with sleep matters more than chasing perfection, and why treating sleep like an engineering project often backfires.Chapters
[Start] Introducing Dr. Jade Wu: Her journey into sleep science, inspired by her father’s research with astronauts.
03:13 Sleep and Mental Fitness: Why good sleep is fuel for mood, memory, creativity, and relationships.
12:13 Myths About Sleep Hygiene: Why gadgets, perfect environments, and rituals can actually backfire.
20:57 Practical Tools for Insomnia: How CBT-I and low-tech tracking can help reset your relationship with sleep.
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